The Lost Territories

"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse) 05/30/2018 at 11:36 • Filed to: Silesia

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Silesia, currently in Poland, last week.

I had the thought that with a Panzer division and air superiority, I could make great progress through here.

duurtlang > Cé hé sin 05/30/2018 at 11:45

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punkgoose17 > Cé hé sin 05/30/2018 at 11:49

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According to the internets the family names of my German ancestors is most commonly found in Silesia, but we are really not sure where they were from.

Cé hé sin > punkgoose17 05/30/2018 at 12:07

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It’d be hard finding out now too. After being donated Silesia after WW2 Poland went to great lengths to erase all trace of those who preceded them including expelling those deemed not Polish enough.

punkgoose17 > Cé hé sin 05/30/2018 at 12:37

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That was very common in Communist Europe at the time. Ethnic national boundaries don’t have finite lines like states, but states, countries, and racists try to make artificial boundaries with war, genocide, mass relocations of peoples, and the destruction of history.

AuthiCooper1300 > duurtlang 05/30/2018 at 13:14

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Also:

duurtlang > AuthiCooper1300 05/30/2018 at 13:25

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Sure, but Cé hé sin had a mk7 Golf rental.

AuthiCooper1300 > Cé hé sin 05/30/2018 at 13:29

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Europe hasn’t gone into full-out civil war since 1945.

Let’s keep it that way.

AuthiCooper1300 > duurtlang 05/30/2018 at 13:32

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I see! Sorry, I had forgotten about that.

duurtlang > AuthiCooper1300 05/30/2018 at 13:34

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Nothing to apologize for. That commercial was great!

AuthiCooper1300 > duurtlang 05/30/2018 at 13:45

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It was indeed absolutely fantastic. It also makes me slightly uncomfortable though.

duurtlang > AuthiCooper1300 05/30/2018 at 15:04

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When it was new it had a similar effect on me. The Nazis overran my country as well. However, I’ve since infiltrated the Germans and am currently residing in the heart of the Nazis, in the middle of Bavaria. They won’t know what hit them!

(BND, If you’re reading this, it was a joke!)

Cé hé sin > AuthiCooper1300 05/30/2018 at 17:47

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Depends on what you mean by all out I suppose. No big international wars but sadly several of the local variety - the ex Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia.

AuthiCooper1300 > Cé hé sin 05/30/2018 at 18:29

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My point was that after WW2 some people understood the latest “great wars” as European civil wars - Europeans fighting each other.

That realisation, to a great extent, prompted setting up the European Coal and Steel Community, which ultimately begat the EU.

Unfortunately mostly everybody seems to have forgotten nowadays that the whole idea of the ECSC (and the EEC/EC/EU) was to avert another “European civil war”.

As you point out, there have been plenty local wars afterward; some of them, indeed, proper “civil wars” (the first one, in Greece, starting in 1946). But no pan-European madness.

AuthiCooper1300 > duurtlang 05/30/2018 at 18:39

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It is quite likely that the BND knows already that you are joking (neoNazis in super-rich Bavaria? weren’t they mostly in the former DDR nowadays?)

But I wouldn’t bet on them having much of a sense of humour.